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Zach6668 · Guru

Gameday 73 - February 22, 2018

Zach6668 · Guru

Rank	Team	GP	W	L	T	PTS
1	^-Lethbridge Golden Seals	77	53	24	0	106
2	*-Toronto Rocket	77	50	26	1	101
3	*-KC Reserves	77	44	31	2	90
4	*-BlackDevilHawks	77	49	27	1	99
5	*-Whalers	77	48	27	2	98
6	*-Lost Cause	77	46	30	1	93
7	Iowa Crop Dusters	76	40	34	2	82
8	Injured Reserve	76	38	35	3	79
9	asdfjkl;	77	38	38	1	77
10	Broadway	77	38	38	1	77
11	e-Newmarket Hurricanes	77	30	44	3	63
12	e-Royal Oak Fearsome Beavers	77	28	48	1	57
13	e-Tulane Flyers	77	25	49	3	53
14	e-Blindsides	76	21	54	1	43
15	e-The Ales	77	17	60	0	34

*-clinched a playoff spot
^-clinched division
e-eliminated from playoff contention

KC Reserves magic number to clinch their division is 1.

Toronto Rockets magic number to clinch their division is 4.

Golden Seals magic number to clinch first overall is 2.

Crop Dusters magic number to clinch a playoff spot is 2.

Injured Reserve magic number to clinch a playoff spot is 5.

Adam · Guru

BDH vs Whalers is a tough 1st round matchup. Both teams could win the title this year with the way they're built.

Zach6668 · Guru

Adam wrote:
BDH vs Whalers is a tough 1st round matchup. Both teams could win the title this year with the way they're built.

Yeah, and I think it's like 95% to happen, at this point. Would need some wonky stuff to go down, the most likely, would be for Arp to catch me.

Adam · Guru

Zach6668 wrote:
Adam wrote:
BDH vs Whalers is a tough 1st round matchup. Both teams could win the title this year with the way they're built.
Yeah, and I think it's like 95% to happen, at this point. Would need some wonky stuff to go down, the most likely, would be for Arp to catch me.

Feels like Whalers/BDH and Reserves/Lost Cause are pretty much set in stone.

DaveyG · Guru

Making the playoffs is such a great feeling.... until you find out your first round opponent.

Zach6668 · Guru

I'll tell ya, I'm not particularly thrilled with the prospect of meeting McDavid in the first round, myself.

Zach6668 · Guru

This is another one of those years where I think any playoff team can win it all. That's what makes this league so fascinating.

Adam · Guru

Zach6668 wrote:
This is another one of those years where I think any playoff team can win it all. That's what makes this league so fascinating.

I dunno, Dubey's crew is looking like a three-headed monster.

Zach6668 · Guru

Na, he's beatable.

I haven't updated my stats or projections in a while, though. I'll probably get at that this weekend.

rinswun · Guru

I'm really looking forward to making the playoffs again soon. Feels like an eternity ago.

GOCUBSGO · Guru

Don't worry Zach. I don't think even someone as good as McDavid can hide my terrible goaltending and lack of defensive depth. I could certainly win a couple of games, but I'm going to struggle winning a series against a good team.

Adam · Guru

rinswun wrote:
I'm really looking forward to making the playoffs again soon. Feels like an eternity ago.

I don't even remember the last time I was in. Feels like at least four years ago. No idea when the last time I made it out of the first round was.

Where's the history section on the spreadsheet?

Zach6668 · Guru

Playoff appearances are in the official records thread.

Playoff results going back a handful of years are in the Standings sub-forum.

Also, the history spreadsheet is linked at the very very top of the official records thread.

Zach6668 · Guru

Really missing a lot of playoff information. May be able to piece it together from old gameday threads, but only as far back as whenever we moved to the "temp" site.

Adam · Guru

Zach6668 wrote:
Playoff appearances are in the official records thread.

Playoff results going back a handful of years are in the Standings sub-forum.

Also, the history spreadsheet is linked at the very very top of the official records thread.

Thanks. I missed the playoffs in a tiebreak with Biatch in 14-15...I remember that, it stung hard and as I recall I would have faired very well in those playoffs. Division champion the year before that, so it was 13-14 the last time I was in...four years ago as I said.

13-14 - Lost in 7 to the IR

12-13 - Lost in 4 games to the Flyers

Missed the playoffs by a point in 11-12.

So yeah, we'd better do something this year. It makes me crazy that I haven't won a single title in this league.

Adam · Guru

The Moneyshots won the 11-12 regular season title. That was eye-popping to me...I feel like Danny was always floundering.

Zach6668 · Guru

If it makes you feel any better, you're the last person not named Zach to win the Gilmour division crown. (He says, jinxing himself for this year)

Zach6668 · Guru

14/15 was a bad year for the Gilmour. Only the Rockets made the playoffs, after Adam missed in the tiebreaker.

I won the division with 76 pts. Yikes. Good for 6th overall.

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

The 4/5 matchup is usually tough because the 4 seed could be the 2nd best team overall.

Zach6668 · Guru

Hell, it’s possible it’s 2/3.

MLP · Guru

DaveyG wrote:
Making the playoffs is such a great feeling.... until you find out your first round opponent.

fck fck fck

MLP · Guru

On one hand, I feel like over 7 game nights, anyone could get hot and be the wrong team to play.
On the other hand, I think division winners getting top 3 auto ranking is stupid, and it makes no sense to have the teams with 99 and 98pts play against each other, with the other matchup 93pts vs 90pts.

It is what it is, but I don't get enough out of the division angle to justify silly playoff matchups.
I'm ok with something like an auto entry into the playoffs for winning your divison, I dont get why a division winner should automatically get the #3 seed. Seems arbitrary, and I hate arbitrary in fantasy leagues. :)

Zach6668 · Guru

Well, I don't think it was arbitrary. It's exactly the model the NHL had at the time. There was a long time where finishing 6th was the sweet spot in the eastern conference... when the southeast was a ridiculously weak division.

I know you guys have told me you don't care about division titles before, but I'm a fan of making them mean *something*. In the AHL, it's the bye, and that's huge. Too much, maybe, but playing a slightly weaker opponent is a decent-ish prize for a division winner

Zach6668 · Guru

If NHL goes to 32 teams, and we decide to add a 16th, we can re-align to two divisions of 8, then division winners would only take the top 2 spots, and rank the remaining 6 teams by points only.

Adam · Guru

I mean, it makes the same sense as a Division winning 7-9 team making the playoffs over a 9-7 team in the NFL.

If you're not going to have the division winner get an auto-bid to the playoffs as a top-3, not much sense having divisions at all.

MLP · Guru

I dont know what 'how the NHL used to do it' or 'how the NFL' of all leagues does it matters, but ya, I guess I dont really care how they do it.
They also have 20,000 or 80,000 fans they have to sell tickets to, so I can understand why they want to manufacture rivalries and bad blood between division teams, and create parity where none exists.

I'm not a fan of rules that base their foundation on 'thats how the pros do it".

I realize this comes across as a personal whine since its me in the position, so sorry for that, but it would be my opinion even if I was the #3 seed in this scenario. If you've read my posts here or on FCP, I hate the idea of us putting more luck into a league playoff structure that already has quite a bit inherently in it.

MLP · Guru

And I will add again, I believe its entirely possible that Davey and I put up scores of 2-1 all series, while Adam+Jeff put up 4's and 5's. Not saying our teams are so much better, 5 standings points means nothing. I just think its silly our setup as I see it.

Zach6668 · Guru

MLP wrote:

I dont know what 'how the NHL used to do it' or 'how the NFL' of all leagues does it matters, but ya, I guess I dont really care how they do it.
They also have 20,000 or 80,000 fans they have to sell tickets to, so I can understand why they want to manufacture rivalries and bad blood between division teams, and create parity where none exists.

I'm not a fan of rules that base their foundation on 'thats how the pros do it".

I realize this comes across as a personal whine since its me in the position, so sorry for that, but it would be my opinion even if I was the #3 seed in this scenario. If you've read my posts here or on FCP, I hate the idea of us putting more luck into a league playoff structure that already has quite a bit inherently in it.

Wasn't this like a founding principle of this league? Lol.

You're not wrong, just saying.

Adam · Guru

We could always just have the regular season decide who makes the playoffs, and then randomize the seedlings after each round.

Zach6668 · Guru

Randomize? That seems extreme.

jeff · Guru

The playoffs is a pretty short period of time--like, short enough that my early season hot streak exceeded the duration. I highly doubt anyone would have beaten me in a series through that period of time, and yet, I would now be a huge dog vs. several teams based on the averages as they stand today.

Uh, basically, I'm agreeing with the idea that anyone who makes the playoffs can wipe the floor with the rest of the teams.

Ottawa_Biatch · Guru

A better solution is the number one seed can select their opponent. Two seed next and so on.

rich · Overselling players since 1993

I love Dan's idea.

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

I've probably suggested it before, and it seems Arp is on the same page

Division winners definitely get an automatic playoff berth, even if they are 9th overall points, but they should be seeded relative to their point total. Not automatically 1,2 and 3. I'm not majorly for this, but I think it makes for more fair first round matchups.

rich · Overselling players since 1993

I'm good with division winners getting in, but we need to implement pick your opponent.

Ottawa_Biatch · Guru

It also adds drama to our league. We should mix both ideas. Jay and Arp’s idea that seeding is based on points not division. But matchups are determined by pick your opponent. It makes the regular season really mean something. That would be such an advantage to the Presidents Trophy winner (and deservedly so, they dominated all year).

MLP · Guru

Jay wrote:
I've probably suggested it before, and it seems Arp is on the same page

Division winners definitely get an automatic playoff berth, even if they are 9th overall points, but they should be seeded relative to their point total. Not automatically 1,2 and 3. I'm not majorly for this, but I think it makes for more fair first round matchups.

This is exactly how I feel. Not a huge deal, but it just makes more sense to me.

Also, I kind of love Biatchs pick your opponent. Wondering if thats more a headache for some reason though, ie, gotta map out all your possible opp schedules....

Ottawa_Biatch · Guru

MLP wrote:
Jay wrote:
I've probably suggested it before, and it seems Arp is on the same page

Division winners definitely get an automatic playoff berth, even if they are 9th overall points, but they should be seeded relative to their point total. Not automatically 1,2 and 3. I'm not majorly for this, but I think it makes for more fair first round matchups.
This is exactly how I feel. Not a huge deal, but it just makes more sense to me.

Also, I kind of love Biatchs pick your opponent. Wondering if thats more a headache for some reason though, ie, gotta map out all your possible opp schedules....

Lol pffffff mapping is for losers. I would just pick whoever finishes number two to cause chaos

Ottawa_Biatch · Guru

Anybody who is against this rule for next year is against having fun and wants a boring league to be honest.

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

I'm down for pick your opponent, but I'm also voting for being seeded where your points dictate you finished.

Ottawa_Biatch · Guru

So far nobody is against pick your opponent and only Zach is against being seeded by points

Adam · Guru

Meh, whatever...pick your opponent sounds fun and I can't think of a reason why #1 would pick anyone other than #8 anyway. Maybe lower-seeded teams would pick higher-seeded teams if there was a key injury or something like that, but they wouldn't get the option anyway.

I don't care if we seed based on points instead of giving top three to division winners. Makes no difference to me at all.

rinswun · Guru

In the Super League (professional rugby league over here), they did actually go with the pick your opponent rule for the playoffs. There was one time in the three years they did it that the team choosing didn't go for the team with the lowest points total and that was because there was a French team in the league who had an awful road record but were great at home. They picked them instead.

rinswun · Guru

rinswun wrote:
I'm really looking forward to making the playoffs again soon. Feels like an eternity ago.

Just checked the history thread Zach mentioned. This will be the 3rd straight miss after 8 consecutive makes. Didnt realise 8th is still tied for the league lead with Jay and Biatch so I'm now actively rooting against Biatch in the race for 8th spot!

Some of these youngsters better step up next season!

SBriand · Guru

I don't care about any of this because I'll never be in a position to care.

DaveyG · Guru

Adam wrote:
Meh, whatever...pick your opponent sounds fun and I can't think of a reason why #1 would pick anyone other than #8 anyway. Maybe lower-seeded teams would pick higher-seeded teams if there was a key injury or something like that, but they wouldn't get the option anyway.

I don't care if we seed based on points instead of giving top three to division winners. Makes no difference to me at all.

There would be a lot to consider I think.

Zach6668 · Guru

Wouldn't some of you hate how myself and others would likely spreadsheet the **** out of picking an opponent in order to get the most +EV situation possible? (That is, if we get in the position to make the choice.)

Zach6668 · Guru

I like the idea of maybe it adding some drama, but my choice would 100% be based in spreadsheet work.

Adam · Guru

DaveyG wrote:
Adam wrote:
Meh, whatever...pick your opponent sounds fun and I can't think of a reason why #1 would pick anyone other than #8 anyway. Maybe lower-seeded teams would pick higher-seeded teams if there was a key injury or something like that, but they wouldn't get the option anyway.

I don't care if we seed based on points instead of giving top three to division winners. Makes no difference to me at all.
There would be a lot to consider I think.

I'm just tired of battling against all the people who want to make changes just to make changes. Tired of being the one who says no because I like it the way it is.