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Adam · Guru

Gameday 33 - November 29, 2019

rich · Overselling players since 1993

Zach just one point back. Tick tock, tick tock.

Zach6668 · Guru

You suck rich

jeff · Guru

Rich must be a watchmen ... watcher

rich · Overselling players since 1993

Ollie what's more precarious: The future of the NHS if Boris Johnson wins or Zach's holdnon the Gilmour division?

rinswun · Guru

Sheesh, what a choice. **** Boris though man, guy is a complete fool.

Fenxis · Guru

People voting for Comrade Borin Johnson / dismantling the NHS because they don't "like" Corbyn. It's 2016 / USA all over again -- didn't you guys learn your lesson from the Brexit referendum?

rich · Overselling players since 1993

Can someone else update the spreadsheet for Zach after this game? It seems cruel to make him have to take his own team out of the division leader slot.

rinswun · Guru

Fenxis wrote:
People voting for Comrade Borin Johnson / dismantling the NHS because they don't "like" Corbyn. It's 2016 / USA all over again -- didn't you guys learn your lesson from the Brexit referendum?

If there is one thing that recent politics has shown is that, for the most part, people are inherently self destructive

jeff · Guru

Corbyn’s platform was actually unworkable. The sooner the opposition has sane policy the better.

rich · Overselling players since 1993

rich wrote:
Can someone else update the spreadsheet for Zach after this game? It seems cruel to make him have to take his own team out of the division leader slot.

Duane? Jay? Let's help Zach have a good weekend.

Fenxis · Guru

rich wrote:
Can someone else update the spreadsheet for Zach after this game? It seems cruel to make him have to take his own team out of the division leader slot.

Ordering is automatic :P

Broadway · Guru

Im playing Dan. Just wanted to see his score and noticed he has 7 forwards. Not sure what happens

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

Broadway wrote:
Im playing Dan. Just wanted to see his score and noticed he has 7 forwards. Not sure what happens

you know.. If it was setup as 5F, 4D, 1U this wouldn't happen....

Highest scoring player gets dropped

rich · Overselling players since 1993

Jay wrote:
Broadway wrote:
Im playing Dan. Just wanted to see his score and noticed he has 7 forwards. Not sure what happens
you know.. If it was setup as 5F, 4D, 1U this wouldn't happen....
Highest scoring player gets dropped

Let's just do this and have people post if they want a D as OT.

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

rich wrote:
Jay wrote:
Broadway wrote:
Im playing Dan. Just wanted to see his score and noticed he has 7 forwards. Not sure what happens
you know.. If it was setup as 5F, 4D, 1U this wouldn't happen....
Highest scoring player gets dropped
Let's just do this and have people post if they want a D as OT.

I've been saying that since 1997

rinswun · Guru

I’m down with that

Fenxis · Guru

Jay wrote:
rich wrote:
Jay wrote:
Broadway wrote:
Im playing Dan. Just wanted to see his score and noticed he has 7 forwards. Not sure what happens
you know.. If it was setup as 5F, 4D, 1U this wouldn't happen....
Highest scoring player gets dropped
Let's just do this and have people post if they want a D as OT.
I've been saying that since 1997

I'm totally down with that -- just need to remember to do that before the season starts in Yahoo

Zach6668 · Guru

Gameday 33 - November 29, 2019

Royal Oak Fearsome Beavers 5.5 vs. Whalers 2.5
Iowa Crop Dusters 5.5 OT vs. asdfjkl; 5.5
Toronto Rocket 3.0 vs. BlackDevilHawks 5.5
Injured Reserve 4.5 vs. Lethbridge Golden Seals 6.0
Nickle City Nerf Herders 3.0 vs. KC Reserves 4.5
Blindsides 4.0 vs. Newmarket Hurricanes 2.5
Lost Cause 2.0 vs. The Ales 3.0
Broadway 6.5 vs. asdfjkl; 5.5

asdfjkl; mistakenly dressed 7 forwards. Unfortunately our precedent is that we drop the highest scoring player, which means Dan's team loses 2.5 pts and his OT player, meaning he loses to Broadway and loses in OT to the Crop Dusters.

-- Edited by Zach6668 on Sunday 1st of December 2019 03:53:14 PM

digitalmonkey · Guru

Gameday 33 - November 29, 2019
Royal Oak Fearsome Beavers 5.5 vs. Whalers 2.5
Iowa Crop Dusters 5.5 vs. asdfjkl; 8
Toronto Rocket 3 vs. BlackDevilHawks 5.5
Injured Reserve 4.5 vs. Lethbridge Golden Seals 6
Nickle City Nerf Herders 3 vs. KC Reserves 4.5
Blindsides 4 vs. Newmarket Hurricanes 2.5
Lost Cause 2 vs. The Ales 3
Broadway 6.5 vs. asdfjkl; 8

digitalmonkey · Guru

damn you

Zach6668 · Guru

LOL

GOCUBSGO · Guru

Homekeys score needs adjusted, correct?

rich · Overselling players since 1993

GOCUBSGO wrote:
Homekeys score needs adjusted, correct?

Is the rule lose highest scoring player? If so he loses.

GOCUBSGO · Guru

I believe that's what Jay said above, but I don't know for sure.

Zach6668 · Guru

Yeah. I'm dropping MacKinnon (though I think you could make an argument for dropping his highest scoring non Util (OT) player too.

Good catch guys. Thanks.

Zach6668 · Guru

Thinking more about this (full disclosure, at Dan’s request) and I think it’s maybe more fair to drop the top score from the 6 F slots (and therefore not the ÚTIL spot since it’s, to me, obvious that player was intended to be in the lineup.

I’m looking for feedback and precedent on this if anyone has any and will finalize a decision in the morning. Unfortunately this impacts game results so it’s tricky. I don’t think it impacts anyone in my division so I hope you all believe I can be impartial.

Broadway · Guru

This has happaned before. What have we done in the past?

digitalmonkey · Guru

I don't know what the precedent is, but I agree that the Util was intended to be in the lineup. I would suggest the 6th F position be ignored.

Dubey · Guru

Yeah I would say either drop the player in the 6th F spot or, at worst drop the highest scoring non Util F

Broadway · Guru

This is why asked what the ruling was? I wasn't sure. This really sucks if this is reversed but all I ask is if there is a precedent for this. I believe this has happened before

Zach6668 · Guru

I’m asking if someone knows the precedent. I’m guessing there isn’t one where the OT was the highest scoring player dropped. But I can’t figure out how to search it.

GOCUBSGO · Guru

I don't know the precedent either, but I'm completely fine with making it the highest scoring non Util player that is removed. It will change it to a loss for me, but no way Dan isn't playing him in any lineup

Zach6668 · Guru

I guess part of the question is, is the intent to punish or make it right?

Adam · Guru

Zach6668 wrote:
I guess part of the question is, is the intent to punish or make it right?

With the current group, there’s no reason to do anything more than make it right.

That said, making it right is dropping the highest forward score.

rich · Overselling players since 1993

I think none utility highest scoring forward should be the rule if there is no precedent we can find. No way Mckinnon as utility was a mistake.

Zach6668 · Guru

Adam wrote:
Zach6668 wrote:
I guess part of the question is, is the intent to punish or make it right?
With the current group, there’s no reason to do anything more than make it right.

That said, making it right is dropping the highest forward score.

That makes it right?

My ”making it right“ was intended to mean like if he hadn’t misclicked (or whatever) and accidentally added a 7th, how can we get it close to what would have really happened?

Adam · Guru

Zach6668 wrote:
Adam wrote:
Zach6668 wrote:
I guess part of the question is, is the intent to punish or make it right?
With the current group, there’s no reason to do anything more than make it right.

That said, making it right is dropping the highest forward score.
That makes it right?
My ”making it right“ was intended to mean like if he hadn’t misclicked (or whatever) and accidentally added a 7th, how can we get it close to what would have really happened?

I don’t see how any GM in the current league could argue in favor of any other outcome. If you don’t pay enough attention to your lineup when you set it, you deserve to lose. Can’t see how any reasonable person could argue otherwise. So...losing your highest scoring forward as a result of starting too many forwards is perfectly appropriate. I’m quite sure that’s what we’ve done in the past.

Dubey · Guru

So your intent then is to punish, not make it right.

Jay · Turning Back the Clock

I'm good with whatever you decide Zach, but remember for years, if you didn't dress a goalie and left one on your bench, you still got a -2.5, even though no one really meant to go with no goalies.

rinswun · Guru

Here’s the precedent guys (OT was the highest scorer and was removed). fchl.activeboard.com/t56482421/game-61-january-25/

It’s also one of the tetchy threads I can remember in FCHL history.

Zach6668 · Guru

I knew one of you guys would find something.

Zach6668 · Guru

Dubey wrote:
So your intent then is to punish, not make it right.

Right and neither are wrong. I just want to be consistent with prior rulings.

GOCUBSGO · Guru

should we vote on whether or not to change the rule? seems like most would be in favor of just removing the highest scoring non-utility player.

-- Edited by GOCUBSGO on Sunday 1st of December 2019 11:50:03 PM

Zach6668 · Guru

We can but only to come into effect next season / we could also change the Yahoo set up as was discussed in this thread earlier.

I should state that in the make it right vs punish discussion, we are usually pretty ruthless in the way we rule on that kind of thing so losing the OT makes more sense to me in retrospect.

Adam · Guru

Sorry for being punchy last night, I didn’t mean to come across as strongly/harshly as I did. Whatever you decide is more than fine with me Zach.

jeff · Guru

Is the 7 forwards / 4 D proposal still on the table regardless of this situation?

Zach6668 · Guru

Adam wrote:
Sorry for being punchy last night, I didn’t mean to come across as strongly/harshly as I did. Whatever you decide is more than fine with me Zach.

No, I don't think you came across bad. I was worried I did because I was typing on my phone, so trying to be short haha.

Zach6668 · Guru

rinswun wrote:
Here’s the precedent guys (OT was the highest scorer and was removed). fchl.activeboard.com/t56482421/game-61-january-25/

It’s also one of the tetchy threads I can remember in FCHL history.

The final ruling is that the highest scorer is removed, including OT. Sorry Dan. Nothing changes from the first time I updated it then.

We can revisit this in the summer if we want to change it. I'm going to start a thread in the Rules form to remind me.

rinswun · Guru

ffs, this change took me out of the playoffs. shutting my mouth next time.